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Meet Allen Legal: Providing Tailored Legal Solutions for Startups and Entrepreneurs

  • May 23, 2024
  • Dosh Domanic

Welcome to Meet the Service, a newsletter by Fishburners, where we meet the expert operators and strategists who are scaling their impact across the ecosystem. In this series, we’ll be diving into their world as the experts of their chosen domains, hearing all about their experiences, valuable lessons and practical advice on the art of building, growing and operating startups.

 

Meet Allen Legal: Safeguarding Your Startup’s Success with Seasoned Legal Expertise 

In this month’s newsletter, we are thrilled to spotlight Mark Allen, a seasoned lawyer with over 30 years of experience in corporate and commercial law. Mark’s journey into the startup world began during the first dot-com boom, where he discovered his passion for helping entrepreneurs build their businesses safely. His long-standing relationship with Fishburners, dating back to 2012, has given him a unique perspective on the day-to-day challenges faced by startups and scaleups.

Throughout the interview, Mark shares invaluable insights gained from his extensive experience working with diverse startups, scaleups, and founders who have successfully navigated their way to an exit. He emphasizes the importance of providing contextually relevant and actionable advice to entrepreneurs, enabling them to make informed decisions quickly.

Whether you’re a founder just starting out or an established entrepreneur, this interview with Mark Allen is a must-read, offering a wealth of knowledge and practical advice to navigate the legal aspects of building a successful startup.

You can connect with Allen Legal and a suite of other experienced Startup Service Providers, 100% free via the Fishburners Service Hub. Get started now →

Allen Legal

Hi Mark, we’re delighted to have you with us today. To start things off, we’d love to learn a little bit more about your experience as a lawyer and what lead you on your journey to work with startups and entrepreneurs. 

I started law too many years ago, but it was in the first dot com boom that I discovered the enjoyment of helping entrepreneurs build their businesses safely.

After leaving a big law firm, where I had some considerable experience with working amongst insolvency practitioners and seeing too many failed dreams, I began to focus on working with startups.

It was back in 2012 that I first started working with Fishburners when it was located in Harris Street, Ultimo. When Fishburners moved to the city it was generous enough to allow us to take two desks on Level 1 from which we ran our legal practice until the outbreak of Covid. This gave a great insight to the day-to-day challenges facing startup and scale up businesses as Founders would often swing by our desk to ask a question and get the benefit of some free legal advice.

Your 30+ years of experience working in corporate and commercial law is very impressive. How has this depth of experience influenced your approach to working with startup clients? What lessons from these large companies have you been able to apply in a startup environment? 

Large companies want and need something different from their lawyer. Often times they have a general counsel who will provide a brief and analyse your advice. Start up companies should be able to rely on their lawyer to not only identify the legal issue for which advice is needed but the commercial context in which that advice is being sought. Most times a detailed description of the law and an application of the law to the facts is not needed as there is not time. What is needed is an answer that will enable the entrepreneur to make a decision. Too many times lawyers will provide advice or a document that is not fit for purpose because they have not understood or fully appreciated the context, and this is no help to the entrepreneur. 

My depth of experience in representing many diverse startups and scale ups as well as founders who have made it through to an exit, has enabled me to provide nuanced and calibrated advice for all stages of a company’s life cycle. 

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As a lawyer, you’re renowned for your empathic understanding of entrepreneurs and your ability to tailor advice based on this. How does this client-centric approach set your firm apart from others in your field?

We look for long-term relationships with our clients as that for us as a business provides greater value than simply looking to charge as much as we can for each job that comes in. We want to be there for clients not only in the good times but also when the going gets tough. I think the fact that we have client relationships that, in one instance, date back 30 years, demonstrates that we are doing something right.

In your 15 years of startup experience, you have seen the rapid evolution of the tech and startup landscape. In the surge of new technologies, such as AI, how do you stay up to date with the latest legal developments and ensure your advice remains relevant? 

The law is always slow to catch up and we stick to our knitting and do not necessarily get distracted by every single passing fad. That said, we are watching, participating, and trying to use AI to make our services more efficient but the fact remains that a lot of work that we do is not something that can be delegated to machine learning. It requires the application of some contextualised human judgement based on experience that may not be stored within the worldwide web. 

We also have our own startup, which is a SaaS solution, which means we have first-hand knowledge of the trials founders face when trying to launch disruptive technology. 

One of your core areas of legal expertise is Intellectual Property (IP). What are some common challenges you see founders face as they work to protect their IP? And, what measures do you implement into your own work at Allen Legal to ensure your clients don’t meet the same obstacles?

IP can be difficult to manage because generally speaking it cannot be touched and locked up in a cupboard and is thus easy to overlook. 

However, it is the biggest asset of every company we act for, and a whole of business approach needs to be taken to identify what IP you have that is of value, make sure that you own that IP and then take steps to protect that IP from unlawful use. This will include registering IP where appropriate, making sure that any use of your IP is regulated by a contract and implementing appropriate measures in your workplace to ensure that IP does not leak out through carelessness or deliberate action of those wanting to use it to their advantage. 

Also, bear in mind that when people use the term IP, they are commonly referring not only to things such as Trademarks, Patents, and Designs (where registration is possible) but also knowledge, data, and know-how (where self-help is the only protection).

There is no one size fits all solution, but entrepreneurs need to be both alert and alarmed to ensure that when they come to an exit, they can safely transfer the IP and not be worried about the prospect of a warranty claim. The measures they put in place will evolve as the size and reach of their company grows. This means it is a regular topic for discussion when we catch up with our clients.

Lastly, for those who are currently scoping out their startup’s legal needs, what guidance would you share? 

Focus on what is important to you and to your startup. If your startup’s needs legal support, find a lawyer that has the skill to immediately understand and calibrate the risk you are seeking to manage. I always suggest that you find someone efficient as to be frugal with their time and concise with their words. 

The guidance I would share regarding a startups legal need is that not everything needs to be done on day one. There will be an order of priority to address your startup’s legal needs. This order can be adjusted to meet the available funds for your startup’s legal needs. 

 

If you’re here to change the world. We’ll connect you to the people who can make it happen.

Find your startup’s perfect provider today with the Fishburners Service Hub.

Mark Allen
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